Setup ranks in Forever
- Rank 1 Gives you a 33% chance to add a Combo Point to your target after Dodging an attack or fully resisting a spell.
- Rank 2 Gives you a 66% chance to add a Combo Point to your target after Dodging an attack or fully resisting a spell.
- Rank 3 Gives you a 100% chance to add a Combo Point to your target after Dodging an attack or fully resisting a spell.
Rank 1 from footage. Ranks 2+ were still Classic text; rewritten from rank 1 with linear scaling. Rank 2+ values not yet seen on camera.
What Setup does in Classic Era
Forever changed this talent. The Classic Era wording is kept here rank for rank so the two can be read side by side.
- Rank 1 Gives you a 15% chance to add a combo point to your target after dodging their attack or fully resisting one of their spells.
- Rank 2 Gives you a 30% chance to add a combo point to your target after dodging their attack or fully resisting one of their spells.
- Rank 3 Gives you a 45% chance to add a combo point to your target after dodging their attack or fully resisting one of their spells.
Where Setup sits in the Subtlety tree
Setup is a Subtlety talent for Rogue. You need 5 points in Subtlety before the row it sits on opens.
- Same row: Elusiveness, Dirty Tricks, Improved Ambush
How often people take Setup
9 of the 135 public Rogue builds saved here — 7% — put at least one point in Setup. Counted across the 1500 most viewed and voted public builds on this site. These are builds players made for themselves before the game is playable, so read them as what people are trying, not as advice.
Where this came from
Changed in Forever.
- BlizzCon 2026 show-floor footage
- Rank 1 from existing Forever footage overlay; later ranks were Classic leftovers and were scaled from rank 1 (linear, same method as Savage Strikes)